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Flownominal
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2/14/2010 5:58:05 PM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


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i believe the answer is FART
You fail at Wayne's World trivia.



KANDYPLUR
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Lol @ making a list of tracks that people should avoid playing because they are played out AND then turning around and playing a set with only those tunes. You laid out a really good response to something that is wrong with whats going on then ur going to turn around and say, it's cool that i do it just this one time cause I said I was going to before i did it. I mean go for it dude, it would probably be fun set to hear but in reality you can't tell djs which tracks not to play and expect them to listen when you can't stop playing them yourself. stick 2 ur guns is all i'm sayin. U were one of the first people i heard playing where's my money and that was well over a year ago. I never played it out for that reason alone. Djs should be able to recognize what's being played out and adjust.

In reality there are always going to be djs of any genre that do this. They get the beatport top ten and play it over and over. If that's the music that moves them so be it, I would hope promoters would be bright enough to recognize djs that play tunes that have already been played 3 times in one night and go to someone who is fresher and had taken the time to develop their own style.

From a dj's perspective I think a lot of the music/dj related gripes can be put on the heads of promoters. I'm all about giving noob djs shots at playing out and learning the ropes. If you fuck up a ton real bad, or play the same 20 tunes every party, need more practice though the promoter should recognize and stop booking them and let them know what up. I'd love to go on here and preach all these thing but it's not going to change anything when the djs continue being booked on a regular basis. They think they are doing great and don't change or become innovative. So make as many threads as you want about all this dj related stuff, non of it is going to change until the people that are guilty of them start being treated as such.
No, you misunderstood. I'm playing these tracks to prove a point. There are so many newb dj's that are like "I like dubstep, i'm going to play where's my money, it's going to be hot."

You don't understand how many people still play these tracks like they're still hot.

It's not because i did it first. It's because people are over using these tracks. I don't play these tracks now. I played them last year when they came out.  That shit is over, there is better stuff out now.

Come out sometime. You'll understand.



abZ
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2/16/2010 12:04:28 AM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


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No, you misunderstood. I'm playing these tracks to prove a point. There are so many newb dj's that are like "I like dubstep, i'm going to play where's my money, it's going to be hot."

You don't understand how many people still play these tracks like they're still hot.

It's not because i did it first. It's because people are over using these tracks. I don't play these tracks now. I played them last year when they came out.  That shit is over, there is better stuff out now.

Come out sometime. You'll understand.
I understand where you are coming from purely because of the tracks you are talking about in particular but I hate the attitude as a general thing.  You are basically saying there is a shelf life for the tunes and when the expiration date hits, you have to delete that shit from your hard drive.  If it is a good tune then you should be able to play it whenever I don't care.  If you agree with that then maybe the problem is is that you shouldn't have been playing the tune in the first place because it's shit and where's my money is definitely shit, would never ever play it unless it was a joke.  Don't care if I had it on dub.  





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J
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2/16/2010 12:22:07 AM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


dov, I think this is a bad idea.  

1. 85% of your audience probably won't care.
2. 10% of us are going to shake our heads because we've heard the tracks too many times before.
3. 5% is going to go out and buy all of those tracks and start playing them.

I move through tracks pretty quick too...  I put a "shelf life" on my picks because I like to keep on top of my game.  

It's not like that for everyone and not everyone is educated enough to catch on.

Playing a 1 hr set like that is not going to change anything except possibly make you look stale.  I'd go against it.





incydeout
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DJDantron
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2/16/2010 12:38:35 AM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


I'm actually going to be amused when the reviews for the party come in and it was the favorite set of the night.



barrettwillbrb
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2/16/2010 5:42:05 AM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


dov is it ok if i play everyday hustle still? :)



J
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2/16/2010 8:42:26 AM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


I haven't heard anyone play it in pgh aside from me when it first came out?



rukkus
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No, you misunderstood. I'm playing these tracks to prove a point. There are so many newb dj's that are like "I like dubstep, i'm going to play where's my money, it's going to be hot."

You don't understand how many people still play these tracks like they're still hot.

It's not because i did it first. It's because people are over using these tracks. I don't play these tracks now. I played them last year when they came out.  That shit is over, there is better stuff out now.

Come out sometime. You'll understand.
No dude, i totally get what you are saying and the point you are trying to make. What you don't get is that there is only a small percentage of people that read this shit on lolli and the point you will make to the majority of listeners that don't read this is, "It's totally cool to play these tunes! I mean look at me I'm Doverspike king of the rave scene, i should know better but I'm doing it anyways because it's completely alright." Maybe to better prove your point you should never ever play these tunes again and chastise people that do? Or even better than that, promoters should be like "whoa this dj has no style lets book someone else next time." If you were trying to explain not to touch the hot stove to a child would you put ur hand on a hot skillet and pretend it didn't hurt like fuck?

Way to play the "Come out sometime. You'll understand." card! This is funny because if i did come out and i saw you play this set I'd realize that nothing has changed and I have no interest in coming out to hear where's my money and other played out tunes over and over again. I am guilty 100% of not coming out. No excuses, I need to come out more. I do come out to acts that i genuinely want to see though fair enough?

I'm not trying to start shit dude, i completely agree with you 100% on the idea that tunes should be steered clear from when they are "played out" and I'm just trying to make a suggestion on how to get your point out there. Do whatever you want though.



To everyone else discussing shelf life of tunes. I agree that tunes don't have a shelf life, some tunes are amazing and deserve to be played for decades to come. I think what's being discussed here is taking a break from certain tunes when they get played every party, multiple times, by the same unimaginative djs.




CubanB
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2/16/2010 9:47:34 AM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


It's just funny you are going to play them all.  

Show people you are on the next level by being there yourself.  

People are smoking crack!!!  I am going to hold a meeting where I smoke crack with everyone so that I can tell them how bad it is.



J
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2/16/2010 10:24:03 AM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


That shelf life doesn't jive with everyone but that's how I feel.  I think it's because I started off with vinyl for the first 6 years and I wasn't able to move on as fast as i wanted too.  

I look at this way... I'm not playing pink floyd or led zeplin.  I'm playing dance music tracks.  I don't know why but for me, the newer the better.

You're not going to see me dropping star 69 wtf, star dust the music sounds better with you or we alive any time soon.  I did that already and moved on.

Don't get me wrong though I still like my older tunes, but for me I like to try to keep ahead of my game.  I'll let other people drop the oldies.



KANDYPLUR
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2/18/2010 5:30:18 PM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


Post from barrettwillbrb
dov is it ok if i play everyday hustle still? :)
no, send the memo to AC also. I hate you both. haha.

You are obviously not the problem here.


I think what's being discussed here is taking a break from certain tunes when they get played every party, multiple times, by the same unimaginative djs.


yeah, its basically me frustrated with the way that most of the newbs that play dubstep play these banger tracks and their sets are perceived as "good" because of it by ravers that know no better.

My plan was to do this at I <3 and wear a shirt that says I <3 played out tracks. Aaaaaaaaannnnnnnndd i'll probably still do this even though you guys make a strong point because i'm me and thats what i do. What i want.

Joey, i'm not king of the rave scene any more than you were in your hardcore days. I'm just a DJ that a lot of kids like right now, I don't have a big head about this. I just play what i like and that just so happens to be what other people like right now.

But I go to all these parties from the time they start til the time they're over because i have to. I am subject to listening to all the music and if i can get my point across to 25% of the people then i feel i accomplished something by letting them know that we ALL know that these are banger tracks, playing them every set even when you heard them twice from other people in the same genre the same night isn't acceptable.


I'll change it to an "Anthem" set and all will be ok then. amirite?


for real though, Where's my  money made me leave 2 stages at Fall Massive.



majorwallas123
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2/22/2010 1:33:38 AM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


I think that DZ's - Down has been overplayed as well and should be added to the list even though it is a nasty track.



ROBBIE
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2/22/2010 3:40:49 AM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


Are you doing this at I heart?

You should wear a crown while you spin this set.  

LONG LIVE THE KING!!!



KANDYPLUR
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2/22/2010 2:13:26 PM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


Post from ROBBIE
Are you doing this at I heart?

You should wear a crown while you spin this set.  

LONG LIVE THE KING!!!
i just got too much new shit i want to play now. haha. fuck.

i think i'm going to do new vs old though.



ROBBIE
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2/22/2010 3:16:42 PM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


well im spinning at the same time as you, but downstairs. Im playing nothing but new shit, so that can be the New vs. Old right there.





KANDYPLUR
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2/22/2010 4:35:17 PM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


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well im spinning at the same time as you, but downstairs. Im playing nothing but new shit, so that can be the New vs. Old right there.

synchronized upstairs downstairs wheres my money drop?

it's like the new rick roll.



DreDeLosMuertos
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2/22/2010 7:28:48 PM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


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synchronized upstairs downstairs wheres my money drop?

it's like the new rick roll.
this.
and get someone to video tape both floors so we can compare them side by side.



impure
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2/22/2010 9:57:29 PM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


I think i would stand on that little landing between the two floors banging my head off the wall if you did that.



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OMEN
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we should update this every week lol



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OMEN
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2/22/2010 11:33:20 PM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


we should update this every week lol



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we should update this every week lol
Doctor P - Sweet Shop.

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Anything by rusko in the past year needs retired.



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J
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2/23/2010 9:26:33 AM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


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Post from KANDYPLUR
i just got too much new shit i want to play now. haha. fuck.

i think i'm going to do new vs old though.
so you're gonna do what everyone else is doing then?



Filcher
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2/23/2010 9:44:11 AM|Quote Message|Private Message|Post Comment|Ignore Member


I just read all this. I mean seriously. What DJ, even the most famed of famed has the right to say what can or cannot be played. Get off your high horse and get on the promoters that are booking shitty talent.



RIP Nerve Agent Recordings.

 


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